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	<title>Comments on: 3 MORE Things to Never Tell an Editor</title>
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		<title>By: Ladyexpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladyexpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was only my English students who don&#039;t bother to identify themselves, Good to know I&#039;m not alone on that one :)</description>
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		<title>By: Shreya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shreya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes at the first example.</description>
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		<title>By: Simone Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simone Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But at Matador, are queries or submissions preferred? I&#039;m under the impression that it&#039;s submissions, but I&#039;m not sure. There&#039;s a form for submissions, but not queries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But at Matador, are queries or submissions preferred? I&#8217;m under the impression that it&#8217;s submissions, but I&#8217;m not sure. There&#8217;s a form for submissions, but not queries.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Castleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Castleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Carlo. Most writers submit a cover letter with a full story &quot;on speculation&quot;, though. This serves the same purpose as a query. 

I&#039;ve worked as a commissioning editor on and off for 16 years. Like many of my colleagues, I can scan a few-paragraph pitch and determine if the topic and style are suitable – and how the story might fit gaps in the editorial line-up. Only a very borderline call or, say, an essay or humor pitch would require loads more time to assess. So I&#039;d rather see new authors exploring more options, instead of agonizing for 4-6 weeks before a response arrives. IF one even does...

Julie and the Matador team are the good guys: editors who reply. A lot don&#039;t, especially to writers without published clips. It&#039;s heartbreaking to watch someone put all their eggs in one basket ... and then get no traction or even a rejection letter. That type of disappointment stops people from trying. I&#039;d rather see my students negotiate different iterations – and maybe burn a bridge, worst-case scenario – than give up. 

Phew! I had no idea I felt so strongly about all this ... But I&#039;m off on assignment now. Been fun chatting with y&#039;all. AC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Carlo. Most writers submit a cover letter with a full story &#8220;on speculation&#8221;, though. This serves the same purpose as a query. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked as a commissioning editor on and off for 16 years. Like many of my colleagues, I can scan a few-paragraph pitch and determine if the topic and style are suitable – and how the story might fit gaps in the editorial line-up. Only a very borderline call or, say, an essay or humor pitch would require loads more time to assess. So I&#8217;d rather see new authors exploring more options, instead of agonizing for 4-6 weeks before a response arrives. IF one even does&#8230;</p>
<p>Julie and the Matador team are the good guys: editors who reply. A lot don&#8217;t, especially to writers without published clips. It&#8217;s heartbreaking to watch someone put all their eggs in one basket &#8230; and then get no traction or even a rejection letter. That type of disappointment stops people from trying. I&#8217;d rather see my students negotiate different iterations – and maybe burn a bridge, worst-case scenario – than give up. </p>
<p>Phew! I had no idea I felt so strongly about all this &#8230; But I&#8217;m off on assignment now. Been fun chatting with y&#8217;all. AC.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a sec...there is a difference between an article submission and a pitch, no? I could be wrong, but I believe Julie is specifically talking about a submission where it takes time to read and decide if it can be pursued. A pitch might only be a few sentences with your idea for an article, and some samples of your work if you&#039;re new to the publication.

In this case, I wouldn&#039;t see a problem pitching an idea to multiple publications since it wouldn&#039;t be a time-consuming thing to go over.

Input?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a sec&#8230;there is a difference between an article submission and a pitch, no? I could be wrong, but I believe Julie is specifically talking about a submission where it takes time to read and decide if it can be pursued. A pitch might only be a few sentences with your idea for an article, and some samples of your work if you&#8217;re new to the publication.</p>
<p>In this case, I wouldn&#8217;t see a problem pitching an idea to multiple publications since it wouldn&#8217;t be a time-consuming thing to go over.</p>
<p>Input?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Castleman</title>
		<link>http://thetravelersnotebook.com/photography-q-a/3-more-things-to-never-tell-an-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-3182</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Castleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a bargaining chip. It&#039;s how full-time travel freelancers survive without trust funds and wealthy partners. One article (nay, pitch) per destination would result in a tiny handful of publications per year: not enough to live on.

If an outlet pays expenses or slots me on to a press trip, I check to make sure pieces for non-competing markets are cool. Editors very rarely ask for exclusives - and then usually supply a work-for-hire contract (bigger money, but they own all your output and research).

At a certain level, carefully tailored one-off pitches are essential. But not necessarily for newbies querying short-staffed zines or outlets that admit low response-rates in &quot;The Writers Handbook&quot; and its ilk…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a bargaining chip. It&#8217;s how full-time travel freelancers survive without trust funds and wealthy partners. One article (nay, pitch) per destination would result in a tiny handful of publications per year: not enough to live on.</p>
<p>If an outlet pays expenses or slots me on to a press trip, I check to make sure pieces for non-competing markets are cool. Editors very rarely ask for exclusives &#8211; and then usually supply a work-for-hire contract (bigger money, but they own all your output and research).</p>
<p>At a certain level, carefully tailored one-off pitches are essential. But not necessarily for newbies querying short-staffed zines or outlets that admit low response-rates in &#8220;The Writers Handbook&#8221; and its ilk…</p>
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		<title>By: Liv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often wondered about sending in multiple submissions for the reason someone stated above that many publications don&#039;t respond at all. It seems convenient to do so but I can&#039;t imagine that I would broadcast that strategy as a bargaining chip; what editor would see that in a positive light? Such a query would annoy me, even if the piece was excellent. I can&#039;t imagine editors have the time to haggle over a piece. 

As for number 1 - wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered about sending in multiple submissions for the reason someone stated above that many publications don&#8217;t respond at all. It seems convenient to do so but I can&#8217;t imagine that I would broadcast that strategy as a bargaining chip; what editor would see that in a positive light? Such a query would annoy me, even if the piece was excellent. I can&#8217;t imagine editors have the time to haggle over a piece. </p>
<p>As for number 1 &#8211; wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Castleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Castleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, thanks for the enjoyable article. Your first example made me howl with indignation! But I’d love to respectfully offer another perspective on #2…

As a full-time freelancer, I have repurposed a destination for eight different outlets across several continents. Some colleagues rack up even more hits: otherwise it’s hard to earn a living wage, until the fairy godmother brings the four- and five-figure assignments.

Those big-money pitches are the ones I serve up on a velvet pillow, carefully tailored to the publication. They&#039;re also the ones that require hours – if not days – of research, often including preliminary interviews. But for my travel writing students who are emerging authors, I advocate multiple submissions. Why? Because many editors don&#039;t respond AT ALL (bravo Matador: I&#039;ll be sending talent your way! And I will warn folks about your simultaneous-submission prefs, naturally.). 

Tis better to land three assignments and spin them differently than to rot on the shelf as a story idea loses its timeliness.

I&#039;ve worked as a staff editor and never held simul-subs against authors. Nor have I received flack as a freelancer for this practice. Quite often, outlets tweak an idea to suit their needs or style anyway. Then I mention, &quot;hey, I&#039;m covering the same place for X like this and Y like that. They&#039;re non-competing markets, so I assume this is comfortable?&quot;

(Non-competing markets would be the key there, of course. Seattle has two monthly magazines: I’d never query both with the same concept: major faux pas. Ditto “Paper Clip Digest” and “Paper Collating Review”…)

I’m sure people – writers and editors alike – have horror stories about multiple submissions. But early on, I seeded generic pitches far and wide, resulting in several columns and loads of on-going client relationships. Done with some tact (and luck and ingenuity), they can work out for everyone involved…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, thanks for the enjoyable article. Your first example made me howl with indignation! But I’d love to respectfully offer another perspective on #2…</p>
<p>As a full-time freelancer, I have repurposed a destination for eight different outlets across several continents. Some colleagues rack up even more hits: otherwise it’s hard to earn a living wage, until the fairy godmother brings the four- and five-figure assignments.</p>
<p>Those big-money pitches are the ones I serve up on a velvet pillow, carefully tailored to the publication. They&#8217;re also the ones that require hours – if not days – of research, often including preliminary interviews. But for my travel writing students who are emerging authors, I advocate multiple submissions. Why? Because many editors don&#8217;t respond AT ALL (bravo Matador: I&#8217;ll be sending talent your way! And I will warn folks about your simultaneous-submission prefs, naturally.). </p>
<p>Tis better to land three assignments and spin them differently than to rot on the shelf as a story idea loses its timeliness.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked as a staff editor and never held simul-subs against authors. Nor have I received flack as a freelancer for this practice. Quite often, outlets tweak an idea to suit their needs or style anyway. Then I mention, &#8220;hey, I&#8217;m covering the same place for X like this and Y like that. They&#8217;re non-competing markets, so I assume this is comfortable?&#8221;</p>
<p>(Non-competing markets would be the key there, of course. Seattle has two monthly magazines: I’d never query both with the same concept: major faux pas. Ditto “Paper Clip Digest” and “Paper Collating Review”…)</p>
<p>I’m sure people – writers and editors alike – have horror stories about multiple submissions. But early on, I seeded generic pitches far and wide, resulting in several columns and loads of on-going client relationships. Done with some tact (and luck and ingenuity), they can work out for everyone involved…</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 is definitely a shocker. Mind-blowing.

And everything I&#039;ve read has indicated not to send a submission to multiple publications.

Great tips Julie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 is definitely a shocker. Mind-blowing.</p>
<p>And everything I&#8217;ve read has indicated not to send a submission to multiple publications.</p>
<p>Great tips Julie!</p>
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		<title>By: Eman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Julie.

As somebody still getting a feel for this writing business, every bit of advice helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Julie.</p>
<p>As somebody still getting a feel for this writing business, every bit of advice helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re starting to see this more and more too. And since two full-time travellers are currently the entire &lt;a href=&quot;http://indietravelpodcast.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Indie Travel Podcast&lt;/a&gt; editorial team ... let&#039;s just say we&#039;re being a bit more picky when choosing authors to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re starting to see this more and more too. And since two full-time travellers are currently the entire <a href="http://indietravelpodcast.com" rel="nofollow">Indie Travel Podcast</a> editorial team &#8230; let&#8217;s just say we&#8217;re being a bit more picky when choosing authors to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. #1 is definitely a jaw-dropper.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice, Julie, very direct and helpful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice, Julie, very direct and helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: David Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent examples Julie. Multiple submissions are more the domain of fiction or poetry than travel writing, however, certain types of narrative essays could also fit at a variety of journals that accept travel writing, especially some of the journals listed here http://thetravelersnotebook.com/photography-q-a/10-online-literary-magazines-that-publish-great-travel-writing/

anytime you&#039;re submitting a place or event-based piece though, it seems really ill-advised to send it as a multiple submission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent examples Julie. Multiple submissions are more the domain of fiction or poetry than travel writing, however, certain types of narrative essays could also fit at a variety of journals that accept travel writing, especially some of the journals listed here <a href="http://thetravelersnotebook.com/photography-q-a/10-online-literary-magazines-that-publish-great-travel-writing/" rel="nofollow">http://thetravelersnotebook.com/photography-q-a/10-online-literary-magazines-that-publish-great-travel-writing/</a></p>
<p>anytime you&#8217;re submitting a place or event-based piece though, it seems really ill-advised to send it as a multiple submission.</p>
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		<title>By: Tumblemoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tumblemoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me that there are &quot;writers&quot; who still pull these kinds of shenanigans.  One one hand it&#039;s disappointing, on the other hand if this is what I&#039;m competing against in the writing world then the only appropriate response is, &quot;Yee-Haw!&quot;

Great article.

Cheers

George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me that there are &#8220;writers&#8221; who still pull these kinds of shenanigans.  One one hand it&#8217;s disappointing, on the other hand if this is what I&#8217;m competing against in the writing world then the only appropriate response is, &#8220;Yee-Haw!&#8221;</p>
<p>Great article.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>George</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why you should query (depending on query policy). Don&#039;t invest hours writing an article if you&#039;re not certain that there&#039;s a market for it. There are very few articles that have the thematic/formatting potential to make it into several different magazines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why you should query (depending on query policy). Don&#8217;t invest hours writing an article if you&#8217;re not certain that there&#8217;s a market for it. There are very few articles that have the thematic/formatting potential to make it into several different magazines.</p>
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		<title>By: Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a writer&#039;s perspective, rather than an editor&#039;s perspective, multiple submissions are more than a time-saving device; they&#039;re often a necessity. 

Most journals either very openly accept or do not accept them, so just make sure to carefully read the criteria. 

Some journals take up to six months or more to respond, and it&#039;s not fair to the writer to hinge their success on a slim chance of acceptance for half a year, especially if they don&#039;t have any other works to submit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a writer&#8217;s perspective, rather than an editor&#8217;s perspective, multiple submissions are more than a time-saving device; they&#8217;re often a necessity. </p>
<p>Most journals either very openly accept or do not accept them, so just make sure to carefully read the criteria. </p>
<p>Some journals take up to six months or more to respond, and it&#8217;s not fair to the writer to hinge their success on a slim chance of acceptance for half a year, especially if they don&#8217;t have any other works to submit.</p>
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