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		<title>By: david miller</title>
		<link>http://thetravelersnotebook.com/notes-on-writing/material-transparency-manifesto-on-a-writers-personal-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>david miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie, 

thanks for sharing that perspective. 

this made me really happy to read: 

&quot;many fields require writers not only to consider themselves part of the research but also to write up a bit about their own background in the report as as it helps the reader to consider what limitations may be inherent.&quot;

i&#039;m glad to know there&#039;s increasing flexibility for writers in academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie, </p>
<p>thanks for sharing that perspective. </p>
<p>this made me really happy to read: </p>
<p>&#8220;many fields require writers not only to consider themselves part of the research but also to write up a bit about their own background in the report as as it helps the reader to consider what limitations may be inherent.&#8221;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m glad to know there&#8217;s increasing flexibility for writers in academia.</p>
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		<title>By: david miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>david miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no doubt. 

i hate the part of the writing &#039;industry&#039; that is all clique-y and &#039;who-you-know&#039;. 

i feel like the more writers emulate other writing styles by those recognized as the &#039;industry leaders&#039;, and/or they try to &#039;get ahead&#039; or &#039;gain-recognition&#039; via anything else besides their own original writing, ideas / stories / voice--their material transparency, [and, conversely, the more that editors, publishers, teachers, conference organizers foist something which may not be true to their own creative vision but is simply done as a way for themselves to make connections and &#039;get ahead&#039;] then the more the &#039;best&#039; of the form gets homogenized and less interesting, more a business and less an artistic expression. more disposable and less sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no doubt. </p>
<p>i hate the part of the writing &#8216;industry&#8217; that is all clique-y and &#8216;who-you-know&#8217;. </p>
<p>i feel like the more writers emulate other writing styles by those recognized as the &#8216;industry leaders&#8217;, and/or they try to &#8216;get ahead&#8217; or &#8216;gain-recognition&#8217; via anything else besides their own original writing, ideas / stories / voice&#8211;their material transparency, [and, conversely, the more that editors, publishers, teachers, conference organizers foist something which may not be true to their own creative vision but is simply done as a way for themselves to make connections and 'get ahead'] then the more the &#8216;best&#8217; of the form gets homogenized and less interesting, more a business and less an artistic expression. more disposable and less sustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one David. I really enjoyed this article and the comments that have sprung from it.

The same paradigm exists within academic writing. In the old days there was this unachievable aim to make all research objective and neutral as if the researcher was just an outsider looking in to the world of others. But these days many fields require writers not only to consider themselves part of the research but also to write up a bit about their own background in the report as as it helps the reader to consider what limitations may be inherent. Sort of a &#039;bear in mind I&#039;m a ___ who grew up in ___ conditions so it would be difficult for me not to see things through my own affective filter&#039; type of statement. 

I think it&#039;s an interesting comment on the current views of society that things are shifting this way in both genres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one David. I really enjoyed this article and the comments that have sprung from it.</p>
<p>The same paradigm exists within academic writing. In the old days there was this unachievable aim to make all research objective and neutral as if the researcher was just an outsider looking in to the world of others. But these days many fields require writers not only to consider themselves part of the research but also to write up a bit about their own background in the report as as it helps the reader to consider what limitations may be inherent. Sort of a &#8216;bear in mind I&#8217;m a ___ who grew up in ___ conditions so it would be difficult for me not to see things through my own affective filter&#8217; type of statement. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s an interesting comment on the current views of society that things are shifting this way in both genres.</p>
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		<title>By: david miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>david miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ob--

thanks for the comment. 

i pretty much agree with everything you said. 

i was feeling this especially: &#039;Everything these days seems more objective, efficient, unemotional; thus I think people are seeking “material transparency” in the places that have the capacity for it, even if those fields fields didn’t traditionally operate that way. Journalism is certainly one of a few flashpoints in this cultural shift.&#039;

i also hear you about the risk of becoming self-asbsorbed. the writer has to maintain a clear sense of what he/she is doing--writing is still a craft and ideally an art form. 

material transparency is not &#039;confessionalism&#039;. similar to a writer trying to render a character in a story as honestly and clearly as he / she can, material transparency is about doing the same with the way you &#039;present yourself&#039; in your work. 

thanks for giving me the opportunity to elaborate / clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ob&#8211;</p>
<p>thanks for the comment. </p>
<p>i pretty much agree with everything you said. </p>
<p>i was feeling this especially: &#8216;Everything these days seems more objective, efficient, unemotional; thus I think people are seeking “material transparency” in the places that have the capacity for it, even if those fields fields didn’t traditionally operate that way. Journalism is certainly one of a few flashpoints in this cultural shift.&#8217;</p>
<p>i also hear you about the risk of becoming self-asbsorbed. the writer has to maintain a clear sense of what he/she is doing&#8211;writing is still a craft and ideally an art form. </p>
<p>material transparency is not &#8216;confessionalism&#8217;. similar to a writer trying to render a character in a story as honestly and clearly as he / she can, material transparency is about doing the same with the way you &#8216;present yourself&#8217; in your work. </p>
<p>thanks for giving me the opportunity to elaborate / clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivebeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always felt that we&#039;re seeing a shift in the need for  a &quot;personal&quot; touch in writing due to a increasing objectivity in every other part of our daily lives; &quot;Drive-thru&quot; windows, businesses increasingly emphasizing stock price over a tangible &quot;product&quot;, and probably a thousand other examples (I&#039;ll avoid the Facebook/Twitter cliche&#039;s). Everything these days seems more objective, efficient, unemotional; thus I think people are seeking &quot;material transparency&quot; in the places that have the capacity for it, even if those fields fields didn&#039;t traditionally operate that way. Journalism is certainly one of a few flashpoints in this cultural shift.

That being said, I think it still takes a TRUE professional--a person thoroughly dedicated to the craft of writing (such as Gates in the link you provided)--to avoid having that &quot;material transparency&quot; become pedantic, self-involved and, overall, a bad read. There is a lot of writing out there that would be best converted to a an objective narrative. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt that we&#8217;re seeing a shift in the need for  a &#8220;personal&#8221; touch in writing due to a increasing objectivity in every other part of our daily lives; &#8220;Drive-thru&#8221; windows, businesses increasingly emphasizing stock price over a tangible &#8220;product&#8221;, and probably a thousand other examples (I&#8217;ll avoid the Facebook/Twitter cliche&#8217;s). Everything these days seems more objective, efficient, unemotional; thus I think people are seeking &#8220;material transparency&#8221; in the places that have the capacity for it, even if those fields fields didn&#8217;t traditionally operate that way. Journalism is certainly one of a few flashpoints in this cultural shift.</p>
<p>That being said, I think it still takes a TRUE professional&#8211;a person thoroughly dedicated to the craft of writing (such as Gates in the link you provided)&#8211;to avoid having that &#8220;material transparency&#8221; become pedantic, self-involved and, overall, a bad read. There is a lot of writing out there that would be best converted to a an objective narrative. <img src='http://thetravelersnotebook.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Travel-Writers-Exchange.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reminder...&quot;Respect for other writers is based on skill and style as opposed to favoritism, or a writer’s putative achievements or recognition.&quot;  If you like and respect a writer so be it.  Don&#039;t be afraid that the &quot;masses&quot; will not agree with you.  If you keep looking over your shoulder and going along with others, you&#039;ll lose yourself along way.  Step out, be bold, and name the writers you admire and like.  There&#039;s no shame in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reminder&#8230;&#8221;Respect for other writers is based on skill and style as opposed to favoritism, or a writer’s putative achievements or recognition.&#8221;  If you like and respect a writer so be it.  Don&#8217;t be afraid that the &#8220;masses&#8221; will not agree with you.  If you keep looking over your shoulder and going along with others, you&#8217;ll lose yourself along way.  Step out, be bold, and name the writers you admire and like.  There&#8217;s no shame in it.</p>
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		<title>By: david miller</title>
		<link>http://thetravelersnotebook.com/notes-on-writing/material-transparency-manifesto-on-a-writers-personal-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-5369</link>
		<dc:creator>david miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the thought-out reply dtp. 

this part seemed really important:

 &quot;I worry a lot that this little blip we’re living in right now, this world of digital avatars clamoring for attention (and money), is actually diminishing the transparency of traditional storytelling in some fundamental way–where the too-vain storyteller refuses to disappear before his or her audience, to allow the story to take hold and to live on its own.&quot;

the only thing is that i&#039;m not 100% sure what &quot;traditional storytelling&quot; is. traditional storytelling to me is  something that started with small groups of people around a fire and has evolved from there (as well as continues to happen there, although probably in smaller numbers every day) ever since. 

if what we&#039;re talking about as a modern version of traditional storytelling--short stories and novels and features--i don&#039;t really judge style. i don&#039;t necessarily care if the storyteller disappears or is right up in your face. i like writers and writing that use both of these styles. raymond carver is invisible. it&#039;s all his characters&#039; words and actions. jim harrison is right there spilling wine. i don&#039;t care as long as the emotions feel real.  

but back to the cave and the people around the fire. people&#039;s need to blog about themselves may be perceived as self-absorbed or vain, a departure from that original time spent in groups. but i think it still stems from that same original need to tell stories. it&#039;s just a reflection of modern environments / isolation / technology. 

and yet all of this said, i still &#039;hear you&#039;. and i totally agree that writing (used both as a noun and a verb) and promoting are fundamentally different and separate things. that&#039;s why i called promotion a key &quot;professional&quot; element, whereas self-awareness was a &quot;stylistic&quot; element. promotion is about making money. 

but i feel too like there&#039;s a whole part of this [this being literally this--me typing right now on my parents sofa in sarasota florida at 7:26 am] which is like &#039;damn this is a waste of time, i could just be actually writing (or surfing) instead of commentating about personal brands and promotion.&#039;

i have a bro who would laugh at all of this, segundo. he lives in an off-grid cabin in the front range.  he lives how he wants and writes just for himself. he&#039;s probably shoveling snow right now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the thought-out reply dtp. </p>
<p>this part seemed really important:</p>
<p> &#8220;I worry a lot that this little blip we’re living in right now, this world of digital avatars clamoring for attention (and money), is actually diminishing the transparency of traditional storytelling in some fundamental way–where the too-vain storyteller refuses to disappear before his or her audience, to allow the story to take hold and to live on its own.&#8221;</p>
<p>the only thing is that i&#8217;m not 100% sure what &#8220;traditional storytelling&#8221; is. traditional storytelling to me is  something that started with small groups of people around a fire and has evolved from there (as well as continues to happen there, although probably in smaller numbers every day) ever since. </p>
<p>if what we&#8217;re talking about as a modern version of traditional storytelling&#8211;short stories and novels and features&#8211;i don&#8217;t really judge style. i don&#8217;t necessarily care if the storyteller disappears or is right up in your face. i like writers and writing that use both of these styles. raymond carver is invisible. it&#8217;s all his characters&#8217; words and actions. jim harrison is right there spilling wine. i don&#8217;t care as long as the emotions feel real.  </p>
<p>but back to the cave and the people around the fire. people&#8217;s need to blog about themselves may be perceived as self-absorbed or vain, a departure from that original time spent in groups. but i think it still stems from that same original need to tell stories. it&#8217;s just a reflection of modern environments / isolation / technology. </p>
<p>and yet all of this said, i still &#8216;hear you&#8217;. and i totally agree that writing (used both as a noun and a verb) and promoting are fundamentally different and separate things. that&#8217;s why i called promotion a key &#8220;professional&#8221; element, whereas self-awareness was a &#8220;stylistic&#8221; element. promotion is about making money. </p>
<p>but i feel too like there&#8217;s a whole part of this [this being literally this--me typing right now on my parents sofa in sarasota florida at 7:26 am] which is like &#8216;damn this is a waste of time, i could just be actually writing (or surfing) instead of commentating about personal brands and promotion.&#8217;</p>
<p>i have a bro who would laugh at all of this, segundo. he lives in an off-grid cabin in the front range.  he lives how he wants and writes just for himself. he&#8217;s probably shoveling snow right now.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You boys are striking out at some very important issues here. 
I too wonder what the new realm of digital media is contributing to the greater legacy of the written tradition. How is it changing us? What are the new ethics?
I want to fight it being about ME but I want people to read MY words, watch MY videos. It is a big stinky dog-pile of blips, RT&#039;s, avatars, comments, quasi-journalism and self promotion...I have a hard time keeping up with the new media jones&#039;s and still distinguishing what the craft should be to me. 

I will be chewing on this as I edit videos and compose blogs tonight...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You boys are striking out at some very important issues here.<br />
I too wonder what the new realm of digital media is contributing to the greater legacy of the written tradition. How is it changing us? What are the new ethics?<br />
I want to fight it being about ME but I want people to read MY words, watch MY videos. It is a big stinky dog-pile of blips, RT&#8217;s, avatars, comments, quasi-journalism and self promotion&#8230;I have a hard time keeping up with the new media jones&#8217;s and still distinguishing what the craft should be to me. </p>
<p>I will be chewing on this as I edit videos and compose blogs tonight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lindi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 
 This is a piece that I&#039;ll probably revisit several times. There&#039;s so much food for thought here. Thanks for this awesome post! It&#039;s been extremely enlightening. I don&#039;t remember where I first read this but someone told me once, &quot;Authors reveal more about themselves in their writing than about the subject&quot;. Through this journey of life, it&#039;s been interesting to learn how my own perspectives have shaped my identity and the evolution of my writing has reflected that. Thanks for this. It&#039;s great food for thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
 This is a piece that I&#8217;ll probably revisit several times. There&#8217;s so much food for thought here. Thanks for this awesome post! It&#8217;s been extremely enlightening. I don&#8217;t remember where I first read this but someone told me once, &#8220;Authors reveal more about themselves in their writing than about the subject&#8221;. Through this journey of life, it&#8217;s been interesting to learn how my own perspectives have shaped my identity and the evolution of my writing has reflected that. Thanks for this. It&#8217;s great food for thought!</p>
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		<title>By: David Page</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of interesting thought-food here, Dah-veed. Thanks for putting in the work. I&#039;m with you all the way on the importance of transparency to credibility, and how a sturdy base of self-awareness can help create a compelling voice for taking on complex subjects. But, having read (and in my time created) heaps of really awful, self-indulgent and ultimately disingenuous (i.e. poor me) introspection, I think it&#039;s worth emphasizing how what&#039;s really interesting, after all, is not so much the self per se but the engagement of a part of the self with the external world (or with other selves). Does that make any sense? Which makes me wonder quite a bit about your points 4 and 8. I&#039;m still (and on some level hope I always will be) grappling with the whole notion of self-promotion. Deep in my bones I have this belief that a piece of writing ought to stand on its own, and ultimately apart from its author--not just today but forever. I worry a lot that this little blip we&#039;re living in right now, this world of digital avatars clamoring for attention (and money), is actually diminishing the transparency of traditional storytelling in some fundamental way--where the too-vain storyteller refuses to disappear before his or her audience, to allow the story to take hold and to live on its own. I don&#039;t know. I haven&#039;t thought about it rigorously enough yet, but the feeling is there, a queasiness in the face of a blurred horizon. Maybe we just need to recognize (and be transparent about) the fact that the straight-up stories we write for the enjoyment of our readers, and the grand narrative (our &quot;brand,&quot; as you called it) that we concoct about ourselves as writers for the purpose of gathering hits or attracting advertisers or selling books (which is, I think, I hope, much, much less interesting) are in fact two very separate endeavors. No? And as for writers declaring politics, I&#039;m not ready to buy that one yet. Because I think the other component to a compelling self-aware voice (aside from rigorous, dead-sharp honesty) is a refusal, at all costs, to settle on one side or the other, to close the mind to the possibility that one&#039;s most basic assumptions (on absolutely everything) might, with the turning-over of the next stone, turn out to have been horribly wrong. By way of example, Neruda... for me, his poetry falls apart when it lashes itself to a particular brand of communist doctrine, not necessarily because I find fault in his politics (which I don&#039;t necessarily), but because I think his politics obscured his subjectivity to the point where the words and the phrases and the rhythm and the images became less interesting, less inquisitive, less incisive, less aware. Is it really possible, as writers, to &quot;know who our friends and enemies are&quot;? Is that really something we should put our attention to? I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting thought-food here, Dah-veed. Thanks for putting in the work. I&#8217;m with you all the way on the importance of transparency to credibility, and how a sturdy base of self-awareness can help create a compelling voice for taking on complex subjects. But, having read (and in my time created) heaps of really awful, self-indulgent and ultimately disingenuous (i.e. poor me) introspection, I think it&#8217;s worth emphasizing how what&#8217;s really interesting, after all, is not so much the self per se but the engagement of a part of the self with the external world (or with other selves). Does that make any sense? Which makes me wonder quite a bit about your points 4 and 8. I&#8217;m still (and on some level hope I always will be) grappling with the whole notion of self-promotion. Deep in my bones I have this belief that a piece of writing ought to stand on its own, and ultimately apart from its author&#8211;not just today but forever. I worry a lot that this little blip we&#8217;re living in right now, this world of digital avatars clamoring for attention (and money), is actually diminishing the transparency of traditional storytelling in some fundamental way&#8211;where the too-vain storyteller refuses to disappear before his or her audience, to allow the story to take hold and to live on its own. I don&#8217;t know. I haven&#8217;t thought about it rigorously enough yet, but the feeling is there, a queasiness in the face of a blurred horizon. Maybe we just need to recognize (and be transparent about) the fact that the straight-up stories we write for the enjoyment of our readers, and the grand narrative (our &#8220;brand,&#8221; as you called it) that we concoct about ourselves as writers for the purpose of gathering hits or attracting advertisers or selling books (which is, I think, I hope, much, much less interesting) are in fact two very separate endeavors. No? And as for writers declaring politics, I&#8217;m not ready to buy that one yet. Because I think the other component to a compelling self-aware voice (aside from rigorous, dead-sharp honesty) is a refusal, at all costs, to settle on one side or the other, to close the mind to the possibility that one&#8217;s most basic assumptions (on absolutely everything) might, with the turning-over of the next stone, turn out to have been horribly wrong. By way of example, Neruda&#8230; for me, his poetry falls apart when it lashes itself to a particular brand of communist doctrine, not necessarily because I find fault in his politics (which I don&#8217;t necessarily), but because I think his politics obscured his subjectivity to the point where the words and the phrases and the rhythm and the images became less interesting, less inquisitive, less incisive, less aware. Is it really possible, as writers, to &#8220;know who our friends and enemies are&#8221;? Is that really something we should put our attention to? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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